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Offline berserk

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Engine dieseling fixed!
« on: September 19, 2016, 04:12:01 am »
I read so many threads here and on other boards about engine dieseling, there were a lot of questions and suggestions but rarely did the person with the problem come back to the thread with what worked to fix it.

I almost started a thread here several times this last year but in the end figured it out from research.

I have a 76 K10 350 with vortec heads, it has a mild torque cam with around 9:1 and 8,000 miles since the rebuild. I have a new hei, edelbrock intake and 1405 carb etc.
It has dieseled the whole 8,000 miles but runs very strong despite, so in desperation I made an ignition cut off switch on my dash and killed it in gear. I hated shutting off my truck only for it to spit and sputter for 5-10 seconds(Uncle Buck lol).

I tried everything I read online, I looked for vac leaks, installed a FPR at 4.5#, a step colder plugs, lowered idle speed, readjusted floats, higher octane fuel etc. and nothing helped.

I was at Orielly's and an employee I have known 2 years to be good with old cars suggested I retard my timing. He said if its to far advanced it will run hot and can caused dieseling.
So I went from 12btdc to 10 and when that didn't work to 8 which still didn't help. I toyed with the idea of 4btdc which is factory spec in many manuals but gave up and just started cutting it off in gear again.
 
Last week I started getting fed up again, it dieseled so bad that sometimes when I cut it off in gear it still tried to run causing the truck to lurch forward!  So I did more research and saw a guy suggest calling edelbrock tech, he said they helped him fix his problem which ended up being a carb issue.

The tech guy said he didnt think it was a carb issue but related to my timing. He said the exact opposite of what the Oriellys guy said, I needed to ADVANCE my timing to between 12-14 and that it would run better and cooler.
Which made sense to me because the truck was always faster at 12btdc, so out came the timing light and I bumped the timing to 14, readjusted my idle to 600 and put some 91 octane in for good measure and NO MORE DIESELING!!!!

Only been setup like this for a few days but I ran it around the city and highway on Sat. and had no problems with it. I also floored it which I rarely do and it SCREAMED, I was shocked at how hard it took off when the secondaries opened up.

Hope this helps others in the future with the same problem who are as frustrated by the lack of conclusion on threads as I was.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2016, 04:16:22 am by berserk »
76 Chevy k10 350/th350/203 part time. Vortec head 350 Dana 60 w/Detroit, 14 bolt Tru Trac, 33" Micky T. Mudders.

Offline VileZambonie

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Re: Engine dieseling fixed!
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 08:41:12 am »
and now that you have a baseline setting for your ignition timing, you should continue to play with it and see if you can further optimize your performance without any adverse effects.
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Offline lyndoncp

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Re: Engine dieseling fixed!
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 08:04:45 pm »
Good work man! isnt it an amazing feeling to finally beat a gremlin that has been bugging you for a while.

Offline lyndoncp

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Re: Engine dieseling fixed!
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 08:10:46 pm »
As well, I would recommend checking that TDC on your balancer is truly TDC and that your balancer has not spun or that your indicator isnt off. Seems kinda odd that you would diesel that bad at 12 BTDC. The reason I suggest this is that I chased a gremlin with timing for about 6 months with a new engine build that turned out to be a mislocated indicator showing that I was 20 degrees more advanced than I truly was. Man what a change it made when I bumped up the timing to 16 degrees from 2 degrees....lol I felt pretty silly