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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2018, 07:07:46 AM »
You should have drained the block before removing the heads, hence the mixing of the fluids when you pulled the heads off.
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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2018, 08:47:21 AM »
I've never pulled an engine on a manual transmission.  Aside from the bellhousing to block bolts, what else to I need to take apart between the engine and transmission to pull this thing? 

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2018, 12:06:53 PM »
Is is still in the the truck?
If not, I would pull the starter just because, otherwise nothing else has to be pulled between the 2.  The input shaft goes through the clucth disc past the pressure plate into the pilot bearing/bushing, so you will have to pull it straight back to get it off.

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2018, 12:18:34 PM »
Yeah, still in truck.  So remove starter, remove bell housing bolts, remove engine mount bolts, then start lifting with picker and pull engine toward front to separate from transmission?  Sounds like it will be fun putting it back in.  Isnt there some linkage or something between clutch pedal and bellhousing that needs to be removed or disconnected?

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2018, 12:32:33 PM »
If it is manual trans there will be a Z lever on the driver side, you just unpin it from the clutch actuator lever and remove the springs. (it will fall out by itself) unbolt it from the frame side and remove it and unpin the clutch side lever.

You will want to lift up on the trans to get it out over the engine frame stands.  It will be a pain getting it back in.  You will need a clutch alignment tool to do it when you put it back together and assemble the clutch assembly.

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2018, 03:41:25 PM »
2 grand is a good start, you have some headroom, that is if the rest of the truck is clean.

It's easier than it looks. Before you take the last bell housing bolt off, use the picker to elevate the block 2 inches above the unbolted engine mounts, then put a jackstand under the transmission to keep it elevated when separated from the engine.

Lower the two back down to the jackstand, and keeping tension on the engine chain, remove the last bolt. It will move forward and into your waiting engine stand, or block of wood or pallet, or...

otherwise the trans plops down when they separate.

If you can keep the truck in place while the work is being done, it will slide right back together, clutch alignment/ tool notwithstanding.

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2018, 04:10:07 PM »
i wouldnt worry too much about it if you didnt notice smoke when it ran.
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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2018, 04:09:47 PM »
Finally ready to pull the engine this weekend.  I decided to pull the engine with transmission.  I dropped the transfer case out already.  I'm going to rent a hoist from a local hardware store and buy one of those load levelers from a tool store.  The leveler will have 4 chain ends to bolt to the engine.  My question is that since the intake and heads are already off the engine, where would be the best places to bolt the 4 chains?  I am thinking where the head bolts went into the block, but I'd hate to strip those out.  Are they strong enough to hold the weight of the short block plus the sm465?  Is there a better option?

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2018, 04:35:51 PM »
The head bolt hole are strong enough to lift the two, I would look for some shorter bolts in that same size so you don't have to use the actual head bolt, they might bend. Not too short... ::)

Find a point toward the rear of the block to tie down to. Maybe between cyl 6+8 and 5+7.

Lift and check balance before committing. Your block is heavier than the transmission.

Do you have the center core / radiator support removed?

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2018, 04:43:36 PM »
Thanks.  No, I did not remove the core support or radiator.  Truck is lifted 4 inches with 35" tires.  Think I'll have trouble lifting the motor/transmission high enough to clear?  I figured it would be close and that if I had to I could take the front tires off and lower it to jack stands.  But if its easier to just pull the support and radiator, I can handle that too. 

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2018, 04:55:32 PM »
I think your life will be easier with the tires removed. Try it without removing the center support, if it become a bear, then do it.

Wish I could be there to assist! Be careful...

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2018, 01:15:46 AM »
Haha, Id buy the beer!  Got it pulled.  Wasnt a ton of fun, but its done.  Ended up taking the tires off and it was still almost too high.  Couldnt use the leveler because I needed max lift from the hoist.  Planning to tear down the engine Sunday and see what Ive got.  Hopefully just a good cleaning, honing and re-ring.

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2018, 05:27:47 PM »
Good job! Hope it goes well.

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Re: Is my engine dead?
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2018, 07:20:40 AM »
For future reference you can just air down the tires.
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