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Offline markzepp820

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HELP!!! Brake Drums....
« on: October 02, 2006, 09:51:00 am »
Hello everyone, I have a 1979 C20 and the brake drums will no come off. My manual doesn't explain very well about replacing brake shoes. These drums are on there good. How do I get them off?! And do I have to use this (puller) I hear about? thanks in advance,
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Re: HELP!!! Brake Drums....
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2006, 12:47:00 pm »
i just beat the heck out of it and it finally came off
Shane

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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2006, 12:33:00 pm »
there should be a little "window" at the bottom. There will be a self adjuster just above the window. Use a screwdriver to back off the shoes from the drum by turning the adjuster. Then a couple good whacks from a big hammer around the circumference of the drum should take it off.


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Re: HELP!!! Brake Drums....
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 09:26:00 am »
I'll try that...thanks guys


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Re: HELP!!! Brake Drums....
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 10:39:00 am »
With the rear jacked up so both wheels are off the ground, try turning the wheel.  If it is too tight and wont turn, your shoe are tooooo tight.  back off the adjuster as mentioned b4.  If they do turn easily, well, the brakes aren't whats holding them. The drum is just frozen on there.  Hit them with a non metallic surface, like a small scrap board, or atleast hold the board up against the drum while wacking the board w/ a hammer.    

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 05:16:00 pm »
The drums do turn freely. Its hard to get clearance to hit the back side of the drum, due to the leaf springs. But I will try again. Also where's the adjuster at on these drums? Also, I noticed on the right drum only, there is a section of the lip on the back side that is like a cut-out or something(the flange area). But not on the left drum. Why is this?


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Re: drum brakes
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2006, 05:34:00 pm »
Do the drums wiggle a bit or are they locked solid to the hub?If they are locked solid to the hub,hit them with a STEEL hammer on the drum face only between the studs.You may want to thread the lug nuts on in case you miss.

If the drum does wiggle and it stops when you pull it forward you will either have to pull like crazy or get in the slot at the bottom of the backing plate.It may only appear like a stamped groove if it hasn't been knocked out yet.Punch out the knockout to get at the adjuster wheel.

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 06:20:00 pm »
thanks everyone, I gonna make another atempt tonight


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Re: drum brakes
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 08:37:00 am »
I just had mine off the other day. My 1/2-ton had a knockout on the face of the drum, giving me access to the adjuster wheel so I could back the shoes away from the drum. Once you've punched out the access hole(if so equipped) turn the drum until the hole lands in the six-o'clock position. The adjuster wheel should be found slightly to the right.  


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Re: drum brakes
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 02:14:00 pm »
Don't hit the back side of the drum. That will either cause it to distort or break.  Back off the star wheel adjuster and give it a few good whacks on the face to shock the drum and it should come off.

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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2006, 04:27:00 pm »
Ok, I found the problem to why I can't remove the drum. The drum turns freely and it moves in and out about a 1/2 inch. The reason it only moves a 1/2 of an inch in and out, is because this @#%$ front piece that the wheel studs go through is keeping the drum from coming off. It almost seems impossible to replace brake shoes on a 3/4 ton pickup. How to you get the drum off, if this circle wheel stud thing is keeping it from coming off? How do you get brake drums off of a 3/4 ton?!!!???!!!!

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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 07:08:00 pm »
are you saying the axle face is keeping the brake shoes on?  If so, the brake shoes must stay on until you get the drum completely off.  Later, you can remove the springs that hold the shoes on.  The axle stays where it is. the shoes come off a round it.  

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 08:52:00 pm »
From what my manual says, I have to remove the axle shafts and a couple of things in the hub itself. Some type of nut requires the use of a special tool. All this to get the @#%$ drum off to replace shoes. I should have bought a 1/2 ton.  The brake drum removal section of the manual says "For all models, the drum can be simply removed by pulling the drum off. Yeah right, for half tons maybe. Then I read on to the drivetrain section. Removal of hub assembly to remove brake drum. Has anyone here ever replaced brake shoes on a full floating axle?


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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2006, 09:31:00 am »



This is from the internet, but is just like mine. The piece in front of the drum that the wheels studs go through is keeping the drum from coming off.


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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2006, 11:40:00 am »
www.lighthouse57.com/brakes.htm

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