For Sale Post Min.

[Swims350]

I definately understand where you are coming from my friend.

side note I didn't think I had 100 I guess so lol.

I admit I don't post many wanted ads and have rarely only posted for sale, and never ever sold I had LOL. But I had been thinking of selling some of the stock junk I don't need, but doubt anyone would be interested.

[CuatrodeMayo]

???i just posted a list of items for sale , referring about me ? . i follow this sight read many post , didn't join this site just to sale parts ,. i have a garage full of Chevy trucks i own . was raised around 'ol trucks before they came collectible ... when you could by a ol truck for 75 bucks an make a work truck back out of it . now i don't need to post a thousand technical questions on here ,but i do follow the posts on here !

I am in a similar position.  I read but don't post.  I guess I will have to change that...starting now with this one =)

[ZAKS62]

To be honest, I feel a bit upset that I just got started on here and have been cut off.  I had followed all the rules and actually had made progress and dealt with a couple of guys.  The site was becoming a great resource for parts for my 86 c-10 because where I am, good parts are tough to find.  But now, due to no fault of my own, I can no longer use this site as a resource.  I can even see what other people have for sale, not to mention try to get rid of what I have and dont need for my trucks.  To the best of my knowledge, the gentlemen I had done deals with were very pleased, I had no sort of bad feedback or anything.  But if you wont even let people get started, then how are you ever gonna get new people on here, or any sort of variation.  I understand that there were people getting on and not following guidelines, and I agree that they should be weeded out.  But why do innocent people have to suffer?  I apologize, but I dont have anything to share on the other forums so why make up 100 bogus posts, just to get let back in?

[Captkaos]

I am not sure how you can say you were cut off.  This is a community forum for 73-87 truck owners, to share knowledge, experiences, etc.  So how is it that you cannot use it as a resource?  Are you are talking specifically as a resource for used parts of a place to sell parts?  If we didn't have a Classifieds section, would you still join?  The classified section is a fairly new forum and these problems just started up.

This is where the buy-in for selling comes from.  You can buy in with as little as 10 posts if you wanted, which is our other option. 

100 isn't a made up bogus post number.  It is the current hierarchy tier of the forums.  It is listed under your username. 
Newbie            = < 100
Registered Users   > 100
Frequent Member  > 250
Junior Member      > 500
Senior Member      > 1000

With only 7 posts I am not sure how much feedback you could get or have.  It sounds like you only joined to get parts and sell parts, which is whom we are targeting on the classified section.  If people are only here to buy and sell to a captive audience, and not contribute/share/exchange, then what was the point of joining?  To make a buck off of something I am providing for free?  Keep in mind I sell parts also which pays for this site, so letting people come in here free is taking business and money away from the site.

[smitty77]

As a new member with few posts (one of which was a For Sale and was deleted) I must say I AGREE WITH THE MODERATORS!  I belong to a bunch of other forums on the web, and a few other them actually require you to be referred by another member (or members) to even join the forum.  If this will keep the riff-raff out so that I can have piece of mind when I buy a part from soneone, then it's all good in my book.  If you're that hard up to buy and sell parts, there's always e-bay, craigslist, and your local trader/swap magazines - until you can build up your post count.

Since I'm new to truck restomods, it will be a while before I reach 100 as I'm more in the learning and not advising phase, but we all have to pay our dues at some point.  Some of you guys have no idea how much time and money goes into running a forum like this.  If anyone thinks Chris is making a killing, think again.  Web hosting and software isn't cheap.  Even if the dollars are rolling in from the store, once you back out a cost for all of the time consumed and the headaches that go with it, it ends up being a full time side job.  Kudos to you Chris and your team of moderators.

Matt

[flthead]

Wanted to buy section was blanketed last night.  We aren't going to charge to post a WTB...

Right now you have to have at least 100 posts to see the classifieds or post in the classified section.  We are still working on the bugs.

If I know you from another forum, you can send me a PM and we can evaluate it from there.  Our current problem is people joining just to sell parts and no read posting rules (stickied at the top) and don't come back when requested to add something.  As Toolmaster stated, we delete about 20-30 posts on a given week.

We aren't charging right now, IF we do, it won't be a HUGE amount, but if you have to pay me to post, I will know your name, address, location etc.  and you will be less likely to shaft a fellow member.

Right now we are requiring a minimum post count.  If you have 100 posts, I have a better feeling of who you are as do other people on the forum.

We are also using this thread as feedback, so your voice does count...

i have no problem with the rules as a new member here . like i mentioned before ,grew up around 'ol trucks . work on vehicles for a living . restore 'ol cars ,trucks motorcycles for fun . member of the amca ,aths , didn't get on here to sell parts ,can do that on ebay or thru the wheels of time mag. not my intentions to sound like i'm bragging but just can't grasps some of the posts on here ... to me seems like a simple answer , but guess i just need to realize some just might not know . so i don't think i'll ever reach that 100 post thing an that's fine . just because some members have a low post count doesn't mean there not paying attention , remember ...if ya pay attention ya learn something new everyday ....  or so i was taught 

[frogman68]

As a new member with few posts (one of which was a For Sale and was deleted) I must say I AGREE WITH THE MODERATORS!  I belong to a bunch of other forums on the web, and a few other them actually require you to be referred by another member (or members) to even join the forum.  If this will keep the riff-raff out so that I can have piece of mind when I buy a part from soneone, then it's all good in my book.  If you're that hard up to buy and sell parts, there's always e-bay, craigslist, and your local trader/swap magazines - until you can build up your post count.

Since I'm new to truck restomods, it will be a while before I reach 100 as I'm more in the learning and not advising phase, but we all have to pay our dues at some point.  Some of you guys have no idea how much time and money goes into running a forum like this.  If anyone thinks Chris is making a killing, think again.  Web hosting and software isn't cheap.  Even if the dollars are rolling in from the store, once you back out a cost for all of the time consumed and the headaches that go with it, it ends up being a full time side job.  Kudos to you Chris and your team of moderators.

Matt

I agree 100% , If you buy from Chris not only are you supporting the site but you are getting quality and the service (shipping) is great.
That being said I wish there was a way that Newbies (less than 100 posts) could view the classifieds in case its a part that Chris doesnt sell you would then have to PM the seller, Ie make engine parts a separate part?? Just a idea

[jc1340]

the adds were the best part of this sight. I have had 50+ gm trucks (49-95) and i have alot of stuff left over from the years. I have posted some ads but lets face it there is a bunch of tire kickers out there .The shipping is a killer and they made 150million GM trucks . So most parts can be found local .

[ssgoodman]

is there a way to set it up so that you can still see the classified section just not post to it if you have less then 100 posts?

i would personally rather read ads for 73-87 trucks or parts websites then pay a fee, i don't like the K5 Colorado site because you have to pay to see the pictures and whatnot, i'm pretty cheap so i believe the internet should be free and i figure that 25 dollars for the K5 forum would be better spent on parts for the jimmy or tools for my tiny collection.

just my 2 cents.

Sutton

[yrik]

I also am on everyday but rarely post. guess start posting more so I can look at the for sale posts.

[Bowtieogre]

I am not sure how you can say you were cut off.  This is a community forum for 73-87 truck owners, to share knowledge, experiences, etc.  So how is it that you cannot use it as a resource?  Are you are talking specifically as a resource for used parts of a place to sell parts?  If we didn't have a Classifieds section, would you still join?  The classified section is a fairly new forum and these problems just started up.

This is where the buy-in for selling comes from.  You can buy in with as little as 10 posts if you wanted, which is our other option. 

100 isn't a made up bogus post number.  It is the current hierarchy tier of the forums.  It is listed under your username. 
Newbie            = < 100
Registered Users   > 100
Frequent Member  > 250
Junior Member      > 500
Senior Member      > 1000

With only 7 posts I am not sure how much feedback you could get or have.  It sounds like you only joined to get parts and sell parts, which is whom we are targeting on the classified section.  If people are only here to buy and sell to a captive audience, and not contribute/share/exchange, then what was the point of joining?  To make a buck off of something I am providing for free?  Keep in mind I sell parts also which pays for this site, so letting people come in here free is taking business and money away from the site.

Chris,

I can understand some of what you are saying but it would seem to me that excluding the new members would only hurt the guys and gals trying to sell used parts in the classifieds. I mean only 3% of the members list is above 100 posts so someone trying to sell a fairly common part would most likely be up the creek. Having the classifieds open for viewing by everyone would probably encourage people to come to the site and while they are here make posts and contribute, just make it so you have to have 100 posts to list a FS, WTB, WIW ad. I think this site is great, its the 2nd site I check every time I get on the net but without being able to at least window shop the classifieds I cant see myself making it to the 100 post mark anytime soon. I will of course respect whatever regulations you put in place but I sure hope something can be worked out.

Thanks
Kris M.

[Captkaos]

I can understand some of what you are saying but it would seem to me that excluding the new members would only hurt the guys and gals trying to sell used parts in the classifieds.

That was kind of the point to this.  Let's put in in perspective from my point of view.  I didn't start this forum so other people could join to make a profit.  I started it so I could make a profit.  I am selling new parts and used at times and when people come in here selling their stuff it is taking away from potential profits that I could make.  Keeping in mind this forum is an extension to my company that I solely own and operate, there are no employees, it's just me. 

So I own the company that has a website where 73-87 owners can get together free, exchange information, ideas projects, how-tos and help fellow owners out, free and every once in a while I sell a few parts and sometimes it is enough to pay for the server space, URL, Hosting, refunds, damages, exchanges, card processing fees, transactions etc, Not free.  And everyone is complaining that I should provide a classified section so people can post their stuff free and make money off of my "customers" and I shouldn't get any benefits for all of this?

I have accounts with some major suppliers that require a minimum buy-in to keep the account, which I pay.  Then I turn around and sell my customers stuff cheaper than jobber pricing that you couldn't get if you walked in and asked for it.  My parts are always on sale because they aren't over priced, they are priced if you were a good friend of mine, and I make enough to make it worth while.  Some stuff I don't make a dime on just to help owners out.  And members come into my "store" and talk about all the great stuff they got as X competitor and don't buy anything from me.  So I provide free forum, free classified and free advertising for all of my competiors and a free market for selling members stuff in my captive 73-87 audience and I get hate email, PM's, IM's and posts in return.  This is in addition to the fulltime position that I work in sometimes 50hours a week, along with family time with my 1 year old.

New members are the ones we are having the problem with.  They have parts they want to sell, see that I have a classified section and it is free and open to posting, they join and start putting stuff up for sale.  They don't read the posting rules, 100% of their posts are in the classified section and we end up sending them warnings we get no response and then the post get deleted.  THEN the whine and complain saying why were MY posts deleted.  Rules are pointed out and then we get new excuses.  Which is why you see the auto post warnings. 

Still doesn't work because the people coming in here realize it takes more than just spamming several forums with the same ad/post, then leave and just wait for my members to email, call etc. and cash in.  Once they realize we are enforcing all the rules they stop posting, don't follow up or send some lovely PM's/emails.  Something I don't really care to receive or deal with since I am providing this website for free

is there a way to set it up so that you can still see the classified section just not post to it if you have less then 100 posts?

i would personally rather read ads for 73-87 trucks or parts websites then pay a fee, i don't like the K5 Colorado site because you have to pay to see the pictures and whatnot...

If everyone could see the classified section, what would that accomplish, the sellers username is there, their contact info etc, so this wouldn't prevent anyone from selling anything.  If you know it is for sale, you can buy it or inquire.  If you don't know someone is selling anything, you wouldn't know the difference.  Keep in mind it is not buyers that the problem is with.  It is the recent influx of sellers.

If we decided to charge potential buyers would be able to see the post, but posters would have to pay to post under classifieds.  I don't see what the problem is since I pay to advertise on other forums.  If I want to sell, I pay.  If I don't, I am just a member.  If someone is providing me an audience I don't mind spending a small amount to make some money.  The information that is on the forum along with the pictures will always be free.  It is those wanting to profit from my forum that will potentially be charged.  If you don't plan to sell anything, there isn't a problem. 

Our other option is to remove the Classifieds completely keep it like it was...

I believe the internet should be free

Nothing is free, especially the internet.  This just isn't reality.  Websites that are on the internet cost money to build, cost money to be hosted and cost money to buy/sell, the software cost money to write it and the server space cost to host it, the URL/domain cost to display it.  Someone is paying for it somewhere.  Getting on the internet isn't free.  It cost to have a computer, it cost to have internet access.

[jc1340]

If nothing is free you should charge a one time members fee .This is a good sight and the ads are the best part . I am  sure there is a lot of rocket science going on but i am ok .

[VileZambonie]

That's twice you said the classifieds are the best part of this site. That's pretty much an insult if you ask me. There are a lot of good people on here that make this a 73-87 community to appreciate our trucks and that's the best part. People coming on here not contributing anything except a crappy old steering wheel or headlight knob for sale is the best part huh?  I don't think so. Go use eBay or Craigslist if that's all you care about. Any intelligent person will most likely look there locally first anyway.

[Bowtieogre]

I can understand some of what you are saying but it would seem to me that excluding the new members would only hurt the guys and gals trying to sell used parts in the classifieds.

That was kind of the point to this.

Well you sell new parts mostly right, not used? Most of the folks browsing the classifieds for parts either cant really afford new or just prefer used for other reasons. I joined this site to share/collect knowledge and parts with my fellow truck enthusiasts and I honestly had no idea it was created for the reason you stated but I suppose that is rather naive of me.