AGR steering box and high flow pwr steer pump

[CruzinHigh]

Has anyone here done this upgrade?

I see the box and the pump are available through JEGS for about 369 for the box and 160 for the pump.

My system is so worn / leaking / squeaks etc... that I would like to do this upgrade before I lift and add bigger tires too.

Any feedback I could use??

[Captkaos]

To be honest, the AGR stuff is just rebuilt stock boxes.  There isn't anything "special" about them or the pump as far as I can tell.
I did get a setup from them a while back in a group buy but it was cheaper than a rebuilt one and it came with a pump for like $20...

[VileZambonie]

I wouldn't bother when you can get a reman OEM system that works just fine.

[ms4972]

Don't the AGR boxes have quicker ratios than stock?

[JJSZABO]

I wouldn't bother when you can get a reman OEM system that works just fine.

+1

This is what I did.  Cleaned and reused the reservoir, mounted to a reman pump.  Cleaned, sandblasted and repainted the old pulley - attached it to the new pump and bought new hoses and belt and I now have a clean WORKING powersteering system.

[Captkaos]

Don't the AGR boxes have quicker ratios than stock?

Not for trucks.

[CruzinHigh]

Yea?  I guess the add for the "super box" SB2 series doesn't seem to indicate that the guts are upgraded in any way, like you guys say..

From their website:

     Super Box - SB2 Series
This box is nearly identical in design, brute force and performance to the Super Box 1, but is designed for the vehicle used as a daily driver. The SB2 has firmer valving and 16/13:1 variable ratio gearing for better handling and drivability at highway speeds.


But the pump seems to indicate a higher volume flow ---


 Super Pump

This is a bolt-on replacement for the Saginaw P-series pump. All P-series pumps are easily identified as they bolt inside the front face of a steel reservoir. The Super Pump is designed and manufactured to produce the maximum pressure and flow possible without affecting the pump's durability. Modifications and the addition of proprietary components produce significant increases in flow and pressure over OEM and rebuilt auto parts store pumps. The AGR Super Pump is HIGHLY recommended for use with the Super Box 1 & 2 to get the most performance possible from your steering system.


 

Ok.. So is this just horse apples?   Heck, it isn't like I plan on building a freakin rock crawler or something.  I mean, for the most part will be on road use but I do plan to add some big 38 Super Swampers on an 8" lift eventually. 

Should I just buy a rebuilt pump and box from Napa?

[Captkaos]

Should I just buy a rebuilt pump and box from Napa?

Honestly, I would.   

[JJSZABO]

Yes

[VileZambonie]

The OEM pumps produce so much volume it basically regurgitates it that's why EVO steering is in nearly every new vehicle these days. The pump is constantly running unecessarily.

[CruzinHigh]

 

Thanks to everyone who replied here.  I am going to go with rebuilt parts from NAPA or equivalent.

My application obviously won't require anything ridiculously abnormal or high flow so I will save a few bucks by sticking with stock stuff.  With the money I save I can buy new hoses and related parts, etc...

[CruzinHigh]

I removed the power steering gear last night, and put an order in for a new box at NAPA.

Glad I listened to you guys, this way was substantially cheaper than the AGR route, and I am sure for my application everything should work just fine.

Gawd, what a MESS all this old junk was that was in the truck.  Although it was still functioning, I guess it isn't such a bad idea to replace something as critical as steering gear when it has God knows how many miles on it and more than 22 years old now!   

I plan to do all the rest of the tie rods, balljoints etc after I get the engine swap done this fall/winter.