Author Topic: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End  (Read 16502 times)

Offline timl1978

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8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« on: June 02, 2009, 12:03:53 pm »
Has anyone had this issue with 8" wheels, no offset, on these year chevy's?  I had to go to 1/4" spacers and grind the edge or the TR end to make them clear.  Could the TR ends be aftermarket and too fat?  Now I have barely enough lug thread left, like 3-4 turns total.  I spoke to the wheel dealer and they said they've never had this issue with this wheel and these trucks.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 02:59:28 pm »
Tim, If you only have 3-4 treads into the lugnut...DO NOT DRIVE THE TRUCK! This is unsafe & will cause you much bigger problems. Unless your talking MINOR grinding on the tie rod end, I don't like the sounds of that either. Sounds like you need different wheels, at least get longer studs. Lorne

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 03:59:52 pm »
8" wheels with no offset? Are these for a wheel barrow?
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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 04:23:22 pm »
How about some pics to help clarify things. Definatley dont drive with the lug nuts barely engauging.
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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 06:19:42 pm »
You already heard it but it is worth saying again.  DON'T drive it with the lugs barely on.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 09:05:59 pm »
8" wheels with no offset? Are these for a wheel barrow?

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 10:00:58 pm »
Sounds like a back spacing issue

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 06:50:44 am »
Here is a photo of the issue.  These wheels are the exact wheels that americanracing.com's fitment guide says fit this vehicle.  I am thinking that maybe the TR Ends are replacement and have a larger diameter than OEM or American Racing sucks and they don't know what fits what.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 06:55:09 am »
The wheels...American Racing Baja part#AR1726883.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 07:01:37 am »
8" wheels with no offset? Are these for a wheel barrow?

Wow that was extremely helpful!  Actually I believe my wheel barrow has 3" wheels with no offset.
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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 07:18:09 am »
Is it the rim that hits the tie rod or the wheel weights that are hitting? I've had problems with the clip on wheel weights hitting the tie rod before. I solved the problem by removing them and using the stick on type of weights.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 07:20:52 am »
The wheels have the wrong offset for your truck (I know, Mr. Obvious here) I have  -51mm offset on my red truck and have no issues at all. The zero offset is common on the 90s 4x4 and up. Since you have 16s and not the standard 15s they came with, I believe they gave you the wheels for a newer truck and thats why youre having the problem. 16s are standard on 99 up. They need to put the correct wheels on for you. They made the mistake, they need to fix it.
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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 03:28:20 pm »
The wheels have the wrong offset for your truck (I know, Mr. Obvious here) I have  -51mm offset on my red truck and have no issues at all. The zero offset is common on the 90s 4x4 and up. Since you have 16s and not the standard 15s they came with, I believe they gave you the wheels for a newer truck and thats why youre having the problem. 16s are standard on 99 up. They need to put the correct wheels on for you. They made the mistake, they need to fix it.

What your saying makes sense.  I spoke to the dealer and they are calling ARE, because that would mean there application data is wrong I guess.  Thanks.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 05:35:31 pm »
The wheels...American Racing Baja part#AR1726883.

That is really interesting... I do believe that the 0-offset should fit these trucks, but obviously yours aren't fitting. I'm surprised that they let you leave their shop (1) with wheels that rub, and more importantly, (2) with lugs that aren't fully engaged? They are just begging for a lawsuit! Seriously DON'T drive the truck with the lugs in that condition.

The bottom line is that every single vehicle is different; the fitment charts are never absolute. So, the wheel dealer needs to fix their mistake either by ordering you new wheels (i.e. ones with NEGATIVE offset, like -12 or more) or they need to work with you on using spacers and longer studs, etc, to make these wheels fit.

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Re: 8" American Racing wheels Hitting Tie Rod End
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2009, 05:52:26 pm »
The plot thickens... I just checked two other manufacturers (Eagle Alloys and Pro Comp) and BOTH suggest a -11mm offset for the 6-on-5.5 16x8...

http://www.aewheel.com/wheels_detail_specs.cfm?id=23
http://www.procomptires.com/truck-jeep-wheels/pxa-series-1069-wheels.aspx

I think that ARE has there fitment charts wrong... These shouldn't be a 0-offset w/4.25-inch backspacing; should be a -11mm offset and 4.0-inch backspacing.