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Offline 87OldYeller

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Wheel Spacers
« on: October 14, 2009, 08:21:18 pm »
I put the wheels and tires on my truck today, but turns out they are 8 inch not 10 inch. So anyone have any thoughts on 2 inch wheel spacers for the rear, my old wheels and tires were flush with the rear fenders and the new rims are about 2 inches inside of the rear fenders.

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Offline VileZambonie

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 08:27:56 pm »
2" spacers are fine.
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Offline modular93fox

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 10:17:36 am »
if you have the same size rim front and back, you will want a 1.5" spacer to make the track width the exact same.
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 01:57:59 pm »
Quote from: VileZambonie on October 14, 2009, 08:27:56 pm
2" spacers are fine.

2-inches per side! That is a ridiculous spacer!

My $0.02: Spacers are no good. Do yourself a favor and go get the 10-inch wheels. I personally have seen spacers lead to all sorts of problems, some much worse than others (suspension/tire wear, bearing failure, etc).
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Offline 87OldYeller

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 04:26:29 pm »
thanks for all the info. just, i bought a set of wheels and tires's and put them on turns out there the rims are 8"  so i think i am just gonna put back on my 10" wheels
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Offline VileZambonie

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 07:33:36 pm »
I've run 2" spacers on 38" tires an NEVER had a problem.
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Offline 87OldYeller

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 07:41:13 pm »
oh ok well i mean i have the 10' wheels and tire i took off. just when i put on the new rims, the off set is different, the one's i took off were deep dish, just the back tire with the new rims is not flush with the rear fender, there tucked inside and i dont like the way they look, but  set of spacers will cost me about 60 bucks or i might just sell these wheel and tires. Dont know.
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 07:43:41 pm »
Anytime I do up a 1/2 ton 4x4 I use the 2"  spacers to widen the rear track.
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 08:40:48 am »
vile, where do you get your spacers?
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Offline 79K20

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 10:02:42 am »
Quote from: VileZambonie on October 15, 2009, 07:43:41 pm
Anytime I do up a 1/2 ton 4x4 I use the 2"  spacers to widen the rear track.

Let me guess, you also install negative offset wheels on them, too, because you like the deep-dish look?

The problem with spacers and uber-negative offset wheels is that they effectively change the moment arm for all of the tire loadings onto the suspension components. Its like using a pipe extension on a breaker bar. The applied loads don't change, but the moment that the knuckle/axle/bearing must resist is doubled or more, especially with a spacer as large as 2-inches. That is why most reputable tire companies won't even touch a car that has spacers on it. Such companies won't usually even remove spacers because the damage may already be done (see Discount Tire's comments: http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoWheelFAQ.dos They WILL NOT touch your car if it has spacers on it).

It's even worse for steer axles. Ever heard of scrub radius? You drastically change it when you use N-O wheels or a spacer.

Spacers in and of themselves are not necessarily bad as long as they are manufactured and (more importantly) installed correctly and re-torqued often.  Yes RE-TORQUED. Aluminum will creep under load, so it is imperative to re-torque the spacer (i.e. remove the wheels). Vile, have you ever re-torqued a wheel spacer (or new aluminum wheels for that matter)?

When is it OK to use spacers: It is possible to have a spacer (combined with a POSITIVE offset) wheel that yields the same overall geometry that was intended by the vehicle designer. For example: a 30mm offset wheel is effectively identical to a 50mm offset wheel with a 20mm spacer. They have the same total width and will exert the same forces on the hub, and the scrub radius is unaffected.
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 05:36:08 pm »
The 2" spacers in question...Are we talking the ones that have x number of holes for the axle lug studs with nuts for them & another set of studs for the wheel to go onto (as in, you need twice as many lugnuts as factory)? I have seen these work fairly well, however if we're talking big, long studs with only the original number of lugnuts...NO WAY!
 79k has some valid points & I agree in this case, get the correct wheels & be done with it.   
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2009, 07:22:41 am »
We're talking about the rear axle here obviously! Do I retorque? Nah I just slam em on til the impact gun won't stop turning the nut anymore this way I don't have to  ::)

If the hub mating surface is kept clean and the adapters are properly torqued there will be no issues. If you are paranoid about them coming loose use thread locker also.

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Offline 87OldYeller

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2009, 11:06:21 pm »
Right i am was gonna put them in the rear. the front rims are perfect. just the off set of these rims are different they are really shallow. and the spacers i looked at bolt to the axle then the wheel bolts to the spacer so yes it would be twice as many lugs. But i think i am gonna take the rims off and do away with them anyway, i like the deep dish 10" rims so much better.
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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2009, 05:41:01 pm »
Here's the spacers I have in my garage. These are going on my 75 Blazer

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Re: Wheel Spacers
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 10:14:41 pm »
I ran a set of 2 inch spacers between my 36x12.50 duals on my 79 K30. It weighed as much as 9000lbs by itself and I had a combined weight of 27,000lbs once with a 35ft gooseneck and a tractor on the trailer. I've never had a problem with them. They are now on the front of my truck spacing my 35x12.50's to match my rear wide Dana 70HD.
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