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Offline Skunksmash

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Where to get projectors
« on: August 04, 2011, 07:21:24 am »
Getting ready to finally install HID's, but I need a set of projector headlights so that I don't blind oncoming traffic. As was explained to me here. The ones in the link say they'll fit a 1987 R10 Suburban, but not a 1987 R10 Pickup. Is that right? Shouldn't they fit the truck if they'll fit a burb?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4X6-UNIVERSAL-DIAMOND-CUT-PROJECTOR-HEADLIGHT-CHROME-H4-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aR10Q20SuburbanQQhashZitem588ed75997QQitemZ380353599895QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


(sorry I accidentally clicked "Notify" thinking it was the word "modify")
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 10:13:09 am »
those or for the 4 headlight system. if you have 4 lights then your good but if you need a two headlight system they wont work
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 11:59:32 am »
Thank you for getting projectors and doing it correctly.

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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 12:33:51 pm »
I have "projectors" like that in my truck and that disk in the center helps none, and actually hinders performance a bit. Get the housings with the star shaped reflector in the center and I can gaurantee happiness in the light quality. And stay clear of the black housings. My headlights do not blind anybody, but still put out awesome quantaties of light. Its mostly about the aiming of the lights.
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 11:50:41 pm »
I have "projectors" like that in my truck and that disk in the center helps none, and actually hinders performance a bit. Get the housings with the star shaped reflector in the center and I can gaurantee happiness in the light quality. And stay clear of the black housings. My headlights do not blind anybody, but still put out awesome quantaties of light. Its mostly about the aiming of the lights.

Just curious but how do you know you don't blind anybody? Have you ridden in a different vehicle while someone else was driving your truck towards you, at night? That is how I'm going to test my final setup.

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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 12:29:54 am »
I started my truck and skateboarded around the corner and down the street towards my truck and crouched down a bit so I would be at a bit of a typical viewing angle and adjusted my lights down to make it tolerable when I installed them. Then one night I was in my brothers car and my dad was looking at my lights when we came down the street and they didnt blind me at all. They were no were the same as standard headlights head on, but more depth at a distance.
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 12:35:36 am »
Are those for the low beams in a four lamp system?
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 04:09:05 am »
Are those for the low beams in a four lamp system?

I don't think that they're low beams specifically. I think that if you buy them, you just buy four of the exact same one and just angle them properly for low beams and high beams. I don't think that you are supposed to get different ones for the lowbeams and highbeams. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though. It may not matter either way you choose to do it. Truck might look kinda funny with different ones though.

I started my truck and skateboarded around the corner and down the street towards my truck and crouched down a bit so I would be at a bit of a typical viewing angle and adjusted my lights down to make it tolerable when I installed them. Then one night I was in my brothers car and my dad was looking at my lights when we came down the street and they didnt blind me at all. They were no were the same as standard headlights head on, but more depth at a distance.

Ok to be clear, you are talking about having a true HID setup using those headlights, correct? Do you happen to have a link to the ones you bought? And are you satisfied with the quality and durability of them?

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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 04:31:54 am »
The housings are either or for low and high beam. The HID bulbs do not get any brighter for high or low beams, it goes off of the aiming of the lights. So, he could buy a pair of housings for just his low beams or just his high beams, it all depends on the aiming, unless you buy Hi/Low bulbs. I have a set of Hi/Low bulbs in my truck. They are called "Telescopic Bi-Xenon". The bulb is in a housing and the housing has a magnetic driver in the base of it about the diameter of a half dollar. When you click the high beams, it activates the driver and moves the bulb foreward which causes the reflection of light to angle UP more, giving it high beam output.

Skunksmash, I have real HID bulbs and ballasts in my truck. BUT I do NOT have true projector style housings. I have a reflector housing that has a cut off reflection pattern.

Here is the HID kit I bought, it was on sale for 40 dollars through a special the seller was holding when I bought them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Bi-Xenon-HID-SLIM-Kit-H4-H13-9007-9004-Hi-Lo-/140349031180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20ad74430c
they work great, project great, very easy to wire the relay, and are peetty great quality. One bulb burnt out on me a bit, but I think it got wet. Its dim and blue in color now while my original ones were bright and purple in color.

And this is the housing I bought, not the same posting but, Diamon cut chrome clear reflector(not "projector" 6024 housings that accept a H4 bulb type.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVERSAL-7-ROUND-DIAMOND-CRYSTAL-HOUSING-HEADLIGHT-H4-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3f0c94d507QQitemZ270794020103QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
 And they are wonderful. Great quality for the price, amazing light output, just awesome. I bought a set of black "projector" housings first and the didnt reflect for crap, and when I removed the "projector" disk it made the light output slightly better so I think ot hurts more than helps. Im going to use those lenses for a Retrofit with TRUE projector housing/lenses somewhere down the road.

And here is my topic on my headlight conversion. Between myself and my friend clint we have bought 4 hid kits through Xenonfactory seller on ebay and all of them have been great products and for low dollar. 38 dollars or something for a standard HID kit in any color you want and they shipped in less than a week every time.
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=19132.0
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 11:41:33 am »
I have "projectors" like that in my truck and that disk in the center helps none, and actually hinders performance a bit. Get the housings with the star shaped reflector in the center and I can gaurantee happiness in the light quality. And stay clear of the black housings. My headlights do not blind anybody, but still put out awesome quantaties of light. Its mostly about the aiming of the lights.

Please stop calling them projectors. It is a reflector.

I started my truck and skateboarded around the corner and down the street towards my truck and crouched down a bit so I would be at a bit of a typical viewing angle and adjusted my lights down to make it tolerable when I installed them. Then one night I was in my brothers car and my dad was looking at my lights when we came down the street and they didnt blind me at all. They were no were the same as standard headlights head on, but more depth at a distance.
That isnt how you aim headlights.

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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 12:58:43 pm »
What are you supposed to do with the third wire on the headlights
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 02:14:30 pm »
Beastie, that is why I put them in quotations. The listings on ebay list them as "projectors" and I know they are not. A projector headlight is a polyelipsoidal reflector with a image reversing front lense and a cut off pattern. How do you adjust them? When I had my normal.bb headlights I parked in fron of mg garage door and adjusted them so they pointed straight ahead and paralell to the ground. But, for courtesy reasons I aimed them down.more when I installed HIDS.

Irish, if you by a standard, single beam HID kit, the 3rd wire for the High Beams is not used. If you buy the Bi-Xenon kit, the 3rd wires is used to trigger the magnetic driver to move the bulb foreward to change the reflection up more.
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 04:16:20 pm »
If you know they arent projectors, then dont call them that. If it were the case, then I have projectors too. Where did you get your projector information from?

Why did you aim your normal headlights the correct way, but use a skateboard to aim HIDs?

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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 04:45:09 pm »
I am getting my projector information from hours of research. I called them "projectors" because some member of the forum may not know the terminology. The person asking about them asked about where to get projectora and I stated they are not TRUE projector housings, but they have a cut off reflective pattern, similar to a true projector. The reason I am calling them "projectors" WITH quotations is because that is the way they are listed on ebay.

And the reason I used my skate board to adjust my HID lights was to ensure I did not blind oncoming traffic. I only adjusted them down about a degree or so. It was only for courtesy reasons, but it did not take away from the functionality of the lights one single bit.
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Re: Where to get projectors
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 08:30:08 pm »
Been a while but thought the low had three male spades on it while the high had two.again been a while(7 years or so) so I could be wrong
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