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Offline hotrod24

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« on: February 25, 2008, 11:11:08 PM »
when i say my truck is messed up i don't just mean the cab there is a ford solenoid on my fire wall see 2 is the cable that goes to the starter and the 1 goes to the ford solenoid i thank there is supposed to a wire coming from the junction block and going to the starter solenoid on the starter but the wire on the solenoid is cut off

 






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Re: wiring
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 04:54:47 AM »
what a beautiful hack job!  :D
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Re: wiring
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 10:51:05 AM »
 Looks like Abdol the butchers truck.
 Some guys try to cure the hot no start with the phord solenoid instead of just fixing the starter,are those headers in the bottom pic?
 If it works, just try to clean up the wiring mess a little or rewire back to factory. You didn't state what year you have.
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Re: wiring
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2008, 11:23:30 AM »
Tomahawk wiring r us!
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Re: wiring
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2008, 11:31:56 AM »
there is a 78 wiring harness in it and there is headers on it is there any way that i can check the starter
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Re: wiring
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2008, 11:54:27 AM »
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
 You could fix the wires so it don't look so bad, rap them in conduit (black plastic stuff) keep them away from the heat and moving parts
 Some part stores will be able to test it on the truck, but most will want you to take it off and bring it in. Truck headers(most all headers) come real close to the stock starter. On the stuff I have headers on I buy a mini starter for the other trucks I use stock manifolds on and use mufflers to get the sound I want.
 I can scan a diagram for your 78 if you want to return to stock.
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Re: wiring
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 12:55:25 PM »
yes that would be nice i want it stock so i can get rid of that ford solenoid
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Re: wiring
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 01:07:24 PM »
An older fellow I know (a retired Rockwell engineer) puts a Chrysler starter relay on EVERY vehicle he owns, the newest being a '70 Nova w/a 502 & Holley fuel injection. He has one on his '66 Chevy truck & his '64 Chevy II. I asked him one day. Whats the deal? He said that way the ignition switch doesn't have the full load going through it on cracking, ??? I didn't know everyone was having problems with that wire ;) ;) To each his own I guess. Yes I agree, eliminate it, less connections,less problems.

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Re: wiring
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2008, 04:11:36 PM »
Yeah Chrysler used a low current ignition switch thus the starter relay. That's how most manufacturers started doing it up until the last few years. Now the PCM controls the starter relay and most have built in overload protection to prevent you from continuous cranking.

To test the starter, doing it out of the vehicle is essentially useless since there's no load on it. To test the starter circuit you need a current probe, and a voltmeter.
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Re: wiring
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2008, 09:05:50 PM »
is there a way that i could put a screw driver on the starter and turn it over
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Re: wiring
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 09:07:19 PM »
What exactly are you trying to do? Is your starter not energizing?
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Re: wiring
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2008, 12:42:12 AM »
i just wanted to see if my starter still worked because if my starter does not work and i rewire it i would have done the work for nothing
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Re: wiring
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2008, 04:48:18 AM »
 ??? Are you saying when you crank the ignition switch nothing happens?

You haven't said if there's a problem only that you don't like the way it's wired.
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Re: wiring
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2008, 09:29:38 AM »
That is what I was thinking.  I thought you were just posting what was there and that you didn't like it.

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Re: wiring
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 12:37:44 PM »
i am afraid that it will catch on fire
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